majority of americans support the drone warfare program, it is far more skeptical of killings that target u.s. citizens. do you expect the use of drones to be perhaps scaled back if john brennan becomes director of the cia? >> i certainly don't think so, martin, because he's in many ways the architect of this program and has overseen the dramatic expansion -- >> so you don't think the more recent public scrutiny will actually affect the administration's use of drones? >> i don't think it will affect the use of drones. what needs to be done is they actually have to be procedures and policies in place so congress or the courts can oversee it. at some point it may not be john brennan and barack obama overseeing it program. it may be something like dick cheney and the nation needs to have some standards in place for when that occurs. >> lord forbid. dana milbank, thank you, sir. >>> coming up, marco rubio and rand paul both vote against the violence against women act. a great start to their rebuttals to the state of the union. don't you think? stay with us. [ male announcer ] here's a fun fact: t